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No. 10 – Greg Halman, OF

Posted by Jason A. Churchill on March 2, 2007

The Seattle Mariners have a pretty good track record signing international talent. Starting with the likes of Ichiro, Kaz Sasaki and Chris Snelling, it’s apparent that the club has a good idea of where to go to find ballplayers outside of the United States.

Other notable international signees include King Felix Hernandez, Jose Lopez, Yuniesky Betancourt, Travis Blackley and Kenji Johjima. From Japan to Venezuela to Australia – and even Alex Liddi from Italy – the hometown boys travel the globe pretty successfully.

And now, they’ve found talent in Holland.

Haarlem, Holland, to be exact.

They signed a then-16 year old athletic outfielder with a drawer full of skills and garage filled with useful tools.

Prospect Insider’s No. 10 prospect in the Seattle Mariners farm system is Greg Halman.

No. 10 – Greg Halman, OF
AGE HEIGHT WEIGHT BATS THROWS ACQUIRED
19 6-4 215 Right Right UDFA, 2004 (Van Dalen)
YEAR TEAM LEVEL G 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS OPS*
2006 Everett SS 28 6 4 5 3 32 .259 .295 .509 .804 .761

Strengths: Halman is an excellent athlete with a lot of upside, and his ranking here in the top 10 is almost solely based on his risky high-ceiling potential.The 19-year-old possesses well above average speed and raw power that may ultimately surpass that of Wlad Balentien. Halman is already a solid defender and has the tools to excel in the field, on the bases and at the plate.At 6-4 and 220 pounds, Halman can be an imposing force and could develop into a dominant player, using all five tools.

Weaknesses: The former MVP of the Dutch Professional League is inexperienced and needs a full season under his belt in order to make marked progress in his overall development.Halman needs to work on a lot of things, but first and foremost he must learn how to approach each at-bat. He hasn’t shown any patience at the plate and is only a step from being considered a true hacker.The good news is that he’s young enough to turn himself into a blue chipper.

Tools –

Hitting for Average (On-base skills): Halman’s biggest weakness is his current lack of strike zone judgment and overall plate discipline. His strikeout rates aren’t all that alarming, considering his age and experience, but he doesn’t draw walks. He’ll need to make significant progress in this area to get the most of his offensive abilities.
Grade: 40/50

Hitting for Power: Halman is not unlike Matt Tuiasosopo in many ways, including the raw power that each possess. The differences include Halman’s slightly superior ability to pull the ball regularly, as well as an advantage in bat speed.

He does get tied up inside enough to suggest he has work to do in this area, but after a year and a half in the states, he’s making satisfactory progress in developing his swing and putting an aggressive yet disciplined swing on every pitch.
Grade: 55/65

Baserunning: Halman is a decent decision maker on the bases, but needs the experience to polish his abilities. With above-average speed, Halman is capable of swiping 10-15 bases a year, but more coaching is necessary.
Grade: 45/50

Glove: With solid natural instincts and plus physical tools, Halman is a nice fit in center field – for now.

He’s likely to slide to right field at some point in his ascent to the big leagues, and that could take place as early as this season. Halman gets decent jumps on liners and fly balls but needs to take better routes, something he’ll develop with more time on the field.

But if his future is truly in right field, the sooner he’s moved, the sooner he’ll adapt and be able to concentrate solely on improving what will ultimately get him to the majors.

Arm: Halman has a plus throwing arm, but his accuracy is merely average at this point. Once he learns when to try and make the big throw and when to simply hit the cut-off man, his arm will turn into a defensive weapon.
Grade: 55/65

Future: Halman has all the tools to blossom into a pretty good ballplayer, but he does have holes, most notably in his approach at the plate. He is, however, just 19 and has ample time to develop his game.

He’ll likely start the 2007 season at Class A Wisconsin.

If he hits his ceiling, he’s a run-producing bat who’s an asset in the field.


MLB ETA: 2010MLB CLONE:
CEILING –
Magglio Ordonez
CELLAR – Dustan Mohr
MEDIAN – Chris SheltonPI PROJECTION: .255/.312/.464, 24 BB, 103 KOFP: 63.5

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39 Responses to “No. 10 – Greg Halman, OF”

  1. Nathan said

    Sounds like a good prospect to replace Jose Guilen or whomever is in Right down the road if he pans out.

  2. I love Halman and hope that he kicks ass. Jason – can you please explain the PI Projection? Is that what you think one of Halman’s average lines will look like in the bigs, or what he’ll hit in 2007? Also, how is his health? Was it his wrist that was injured last season?

  3. The PI Projection is for 2007… I’ll be sure and add that in there from here on out.

    The team called it a fractured right hand. He’s fully healed and will not be limited this spring.

  4. Slack said

    Jason,
    Good read. I didn’t know anything about Halman but I like the upside.
    Are you going to post one prospect profile each day?
    Also, what is the lowest rating on the 20-80 scale that qualifies as a plus tool?

  5. I will probably do certain ones by themselves but No. 1 and 2 will be done in tandem.

    The 20-80 scale:

    80 – Outstanding
    70 – Well above average
    60 – Above average
    50 – Average
    40 – Below average
    30 – Well below average
    20 – Poor

    A “plus” tool is at least a 60 and if it is a 60, for me to call it a plus tool it’s definitely got the potential to be a 65 or 70.

  6. Lance said

    So what does the first number represent? Where the player is at now? Where’s he’s likely to be at the major league level? And, so, what does the second number represent?

    Also, nice to know that the PI projection is for 2007, and that you’ll be including it in the future. But, I still don’t know what it is saying.

    BTW, you might be glad to know that in the M’s third exhibition game (3/3/07) they used Justin Thomas in relief for two innings. Six up, six down with three Ks. Interesting, too, eight and a half innings of baseball and there were no walks for either team. No sure if that’s good pitching or impatient hitting. Unfortunately, M’s lose 1-0. Morse hits into DP to end it.

  7. AQ said

    Great writeup, Jason. The one thing that concerns me about Halman is the fact that he is apparently not the most patient hitter out there. Ordinarily, I would think that the patience would be acquired with age and coaching. But since the M’s organizational philosophy does not seem to include plate discipline, that is definite cause for concern.

    What are your thoughts on this aspect of his game? Does he have the self-discipline to improve his patience at the plate, even though he likely won’t receive adequate instruction or emphasis from his coaches on this?

  8. Yes, Lance, the first number in the grades is where the tool is at now and the second is the ceiling grade.

    The PI projections is AVG/OBP/SLG, BB, K for the 07 season. It’s not rocket science, Lance.

  9. And you, Lance, might be glad to know that Mr. Thomas has not been profiled yet in these here prospect rankings, which can only mean one thing.

    I like him. A lot.

  10. Lance said

    My question really had more to do with the term “PI projection”. But, upon further thought, I’ve concluded it stands for Prospect Insider, meaning it’s simply your own personal projection. I guess I was trying to read more into it than what was really there. Still, it’s good to know.

    I know you’ve liked Thomas a lot since his early days in the system.

  11. JB said

    Kind of off topic but… Did anyone notice that Carlos Triunfel had an AB in Sundays game? Kind of exciting! Did anyone witness the AB or have any other early feedback on his workouts?

    SEATTLE (4) AT ARIZONA (6)

    SEATTLE AB R H BI ARIZONA AB R H BI
    A Jones cf 5 0 1 0 E Byrnes cf 2 1 1 0
    J Reed lf 3 0 0 0 E Bonifacio ss 1 1 0 0
    T Torcato lf 1 1 1 1 O Hudson 2b 3 0 0 0
    J Vidro dh 3 0 2 0 A Ojeda 3b 2 0 1 2
    J Diaz pr-dh 1 0 0 0 C Tracy 3b 2 1 0 0
    B Broussard 1b 4 0 1 1 J Upton cf 2 0 0 0
    K Johjima c 3 1 2 0 T Clark 1b 1 1 1 0
    J Burke c 2 0 1 1 R Hammock pr-1b 0 0 0 0
    M Morse 3b 3 0 1 0 S Drew ss 3 0 2 2
    M Wilson rf 3 0 1 1 D Richar 2b 1 0 0 0
    J Frazier rf 1 0 0 0 C Quentin rf 3 0 0 0
    M Garciaparra 2b 3 0 0 0 D Brown rf 1 0 0 0
    R Ordonez ss 3 0 0 0 C Gonzalez dh 4 0 1 1
    C Triunfel ss 1 1 0 0 C Snyder c 3 1 1 0
    O Navarro ss-2b 0 1 0 0 J Ford c 1 0 1 0
    D Krynzel lf 3 1 1 1
    R Thompson lf 1 0 0 0
    TOTALS 36 4 10 4 TOTALS 33 6 9 6

    SEATTLE 010 000 012 — 4
    ARIZONA 211 002 00x — 6

    E–R Hammock. DP–ARIZONA 1. LOB–SEATTLE 10,
    ARIZONA 9. 2B–A Ojeda, T Clark, S Drew, K
    Johjima. HR–D Krynzel 1 (1) (off C Baek).
    IP H R ER BB SO HR
    SEATTLE
    C Baek (L,0-1) 2 3 3 3 2 0 1
    C Alvarado 2 2 1 1 1 0 0
    T Blackley 2 3 2 2 2 3 0
    R Rowland-Smith 2 1 0 0 0 2 0
    ARIZONA
    Ed Gonzalez (W,1-0) 2 4 1 1 0 2 0
    M Owings 2 2 0 0 0 3 0
    G Smith 2 0 0 0 1 1 0
    T Pena 2 2 1 1 2 2 0
    D Slaten 1 2 2 0 2 0 0

    HBP–E Byrnes by C Alvarado. SO–SEA: A Jones 2,
    B Broussard, M Morse, M Garciaparra, M Wilson, K
    Johjima, J Reed. ARI: D Krynzel, R Thompson, D
    Richar, J Upton, C Gonzalez. BB–SEA: J Vidro, T
    Torcato, B Broussard, M Morse, O Navarro. ARI: T
    Clark 2, R Hammock, C Tracy, E Bonifacio. T–2:40.
    A–6,689.

  12. I didn’t see it, but was told he looked lost, which is to be expected – he’s 17.

    He’s a sure thing to play in the states this year, and that’s news in itself. There have been rumors that both he and Mario Martinez could see time in WISCONSIN. That’s a huge step.

  13. Lance said

    Just from the box score it looks like he may have gotten on on an error by the firstbaseman and subsequently scored. But I suppose you drew the same conclusion. Still, good for him. At least he didn’t strikeout.

  14. This is how clubs test how mature a kid like that may be. With AROD, he was clearly yhe best talent and deserved to go No. 1 overall in the draft, but he got a few ABs the following spring and his poise was impressive enough that they knew he was going to move quickly.

  15. Adam B. said

    Shout out to my Flemish peeps! 😉

    Alright, with that out of the way, I just want to ask Jason what he thinks of Halman in comparison to another M’s outfielder, Kung Hui Lo.

    The impression I got was that he was basically Shin Soo Choo with a bit more pop potential and that while he was ahead of Halman in his development at this point, Halman has the greater ceiling of the two.

    Is this a fair assessment and will Kung Hui Lo be appearing on this ranking?

  16. Adam B. said

    Sorry, KUO Hui Lo.

  17. Willmore said

    Bill Bavasi – Baseball’s worst General Manager according to Forbes.com

    http://www.forbes.com/business/2007/03/02/sports-greatest-gms-biz-cz_jg_0302gms_7.html

  18. etowncoug said

    Pretty much any list that names Kevin McHale as the best GM in professional sports I dismiss. McHale is one of the worst GM’s in pro sports, not the best.

  19. Willmore said

    Yeah, but they used a formula, so that makes up for it 🙂

    What they did is a nice mathematical way of ranking GMs, at least in baseball. In the other sports it does not work, because those other sports have salary caps.

    They rate the GMs on winning compared to their predecessor and on spending, against the league median, compared to the predecessors spending.

    So Billy Beane is rightfully ranked #1 amongst baseball GMs and Billy B is last. And guys like Cashman and Ricciardi aren’t overrated, they are in the bottom half.

  20. jp17 said

    Yet somehow they rank Mike Flanagan of the Orioles above Stoneman (Angels), Williams (White Sox), Ryan (Twins), Shapiro (Indians), and only slightly worse than Jocketty (Cardinals) and Dombrowski (Tigers.)

    Yeah, I think I’ll dismiss that. There are so many factors that the “formula” do not take into account.

  21. Forbes bases all of their stuff on money. Bavasi has spent a ton and has a mediocre club. But, McHale has done exactly the same thing.

    Funny.

    Re: Lo

    If Lo was 19, as Halman is, he’d have probably ranked in the top 7. He’s an interesting prospect, but really nothing more at this point. It doesn’t appear that there is enough pop in his bat for him to an impact type.

    I think he’s the outfield version of Yung Chi Chen.

  22. 3rd Watch said

    Steven Kahn…ouch.

    I’m down. I would have like to have seen that fastball at the safe. He now gets pushed a little lower on the prospect list due to his age, college experience and lack of command. I was expecting a Mark Lowe type of year from Kahn.

    Lets hope for a quick recovery and have him back on the bump.

  23. Slack said

    KAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!
    Someone had to say it (not that it’s his fault)!

  24. Yeah, it does suck, pretty bad, too.

    The good news is, however, that it’s a knee thing and not an arm thing. Though it’s bad news that it was his left knee, if that is indeed the knee it was as I’ve been told, because of the repeated impact on a pitcher’s landing leg.

  25. Re: Forbes GM Rankings

    Yeah, it’s always best to be the guy who replaces the guy who replaced the Hall of Famer, instead of the one who followed him immediately.

    Bavasi’s predecessor, Pat Gillick, has not lost his touch, as some of us thought. He’s doing a very good job in Philly, building a winner.

    But the difference between Gillick’s style and some of the younger generation’s is that Gillick goes in, does a job, get the team to the highest of levels, as in challenging for the postseason, getting deep into the postseason. That’s his goal, that’s the job the owners want him to do. He isn’t even trying to build a sustainable long-term success boat, like Shapiro, Ryan, Bean and others are trying to do.

    He could do that, but it’d take longer to get done, and he’d end up stealing Bob Engle from us to help him do it, so… thanks, Pat, for taking the Phillies job and doing your thing.

    Besides, the Philly onwership wants a quick route to success. They’ll worry about the 2010s when they get here.

  26. ono4wahine said

    Hey Jason.

    I don’t want to hassle you or anything, but I was just curious about when the rest of the top 10 will be posted. Thanks!

  27. I’m looking to get TWO up tomorrow. No. 9 and 8. I wanted them to go together because IMO their rankings are more interchangeable than any other tandem.

    7 and 6 on Wednesday and 5 and 4 on Thursday. I’ll be taking Friday off, but Saturday = No. 3.

    Monday we’ll go with 1 and 2 together. I think people will really like that one a lot, even though it is no secret which two they will be.

  28. Ralph said

    Third world blogger? That’s an interesting term. I’m not sure I know what it means though. Is it a blogger who lives under some kind of dictatorship and is forced to write what they write? Is it an underfed blogger? Or is it one that blogs in the United States to “feed their family” and have a better life? Just curious, because I’ve never heard that term before.

  29. jp17 said

    I certainly don’t think he is underfed, judging by his own self description of 6′ 250lbs.

    Pedro is a dumbfuck, but I’ve probably taken this farther than it needs to go, it’s pretty self explanatory.

  30. Ralph said

    Ah, so his name is Pedro. Say no more, it’s becoming crystal clear.

  31. I thought his name was Logan?

    And JP, that was hilarious.

  32. Goose said

    He’s just mad that his site doesn’t get any attention outside of the few who manage to drag themselves out of the PI forums garbage dump to post there.

    There’s a reason absolutely nobody in the blogosphere takes him seriously.

  33. jp17 said

    Hey, I tried to drag myself out of the PI garbage dump to post there, questioning his backpedal attemps re: Garth, but alas, I was banned.

    Oh the irony.

    Wanna hear something even funnier?

    Logan, Pedro, whatever was on the PI trying to round up people to sue the PI for banning him wrongfully from the site. So then what does he do? Bans people from his site who would like to debate his opinions. It’s gotta be the only place where everyone always seems to agree with the writer….because he bans the rest. Good stuff.

    Hey JAC, gonna have more up tonight?

  34. I think at least No. 9 is going up tonight. I’ve gotten a last-second SR from ST that might make me flip-flop 8 and 9.

  35. jp17 said

    Must be pretty good (or bad) info to warrant a swap, no?

    In the writeup, let us know the last second scouting report would ya?

  36. J said

    So, is this flip-flop because the former nine starter kicking ass or because the former eight started sucking?

  37. J said

    Started, not starter, that should read.

  38. Well, as I said before I even got the info, these two spots were interchangeable in my mind anyways, but I now see a reason to go with a swap.

    Still, both players are so different, yet so closely graded overall when weighing everything.

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